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Is "Internal selection" relevant?

It is interesting how Darwinian theory is being applied to cybernetics. I don't think I can fully agree with all of the generalizations, however. For example, the idea of "internal self-organizing selection" seems highly problematic in regard to evolution, although I agree that there is something going on internally that contributes to selection.

The problem I see is that any useful definition of evolution should involve replication of forms through time requiring resources (either matter or energy). It is this resource requirement that leads to environmental selection and ensures that survival cannot depend solely on internal selection. Even the example of the crystal doesn't seem to work if one thinks of a growth of the crystal or a series of crystals. The environment does select them in terms of the mineral availability, and hypothetically, there would be a difference in which kinds of crystals "survive" depending on environmental variables.

Perhaps I have missed the point here -- If so, please enlighten me.

Also, I think that for us to talk about evolution in non-metaphorical terms, there has to be a mechanism of "descent with modification" and here descent implies replication (i.e., not just a single form changing over time). Are cyberneticists assuming otherwise?? If so, I think we may be stretching the defintions too far. It would be useful to clarify the difference between biological evolution and evolution of non-living systems. To do that, of course, one has to define life in a robust and fundamental way, and I think that too should be attempted before definitions of evolution can be distinquished usefully.


Copyright© 1997 Principia Cybernetica - Referencing this page

Author
John Kineman (jjk[ at ]ngdc.noaa.gov)

Date
Mar 5, 1997

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